Saturday, December 8, 2007

Why People Hate Duke Basketball—Part 1

I'm a big fan of Duke basketball games. They're the reason I came here, and I still get the chills every time I walk into Cameron.

But after four years of standing on the non-TV side, listening to those Krazy Crazies chant arguably clever things and clearly get in the heads of opposing players and refs, I witnessed one of the most egregious violations of the ethics of basketball attendance I've ever seen at today's game against Michigan.

Critics always complain that Crazies care more about getting on TV than actually watching basketball. I've tried to defend my brethren, but after today, no longer.

Some freshman who was standing in the front row made it his personal goal to piss off any fair-minded basketball fan. He likely slept outside in 30-degree weather to get front-row seats. Did he do it to watch the game? No. Not even close. Did he wear a bright orange t-shirt so he could be more recognizable on television? You know it. He waved at the camera and jumped around every time the ball was in front of him. He talked on his cell phone, presumably to his super-proud mother, as she watched her son make an ass of himself on national television.

To top it off, when a group of casual fans (OK, the editors of TBZ and their friends) called this kid out for his media-whore behavior, he had the audacity to make a "T" symbol with his hands and follow it up with an even more douchebaggy "V" symbol. Not only was he acting like a complete sellout, but he was proud of it.

This kid doesn't represent all Duke basketball fans, but a significant portion do paint their faces and jump around, not watching the game, just so their moms can see their kids for a split second. And they're the reason Duke is known for having a me-first, basketball-second media-whore cheering section.

You shame your school, orange-shirt kid.

66 comments:

Anonymous said...

this better only be part 1... i can think of at least 15 more parts that should follow...

Anonymous said...

the sad thing is, i have to disagree with you. this asshole does represent duke fans. the kid is pathetic, just like the majority of the people who call themselves cameron crazies.

Tyler said...

I saw this kid and he was exhibiting an unprecedented level of douchebaggery, but I would disagree that he is representative of most fans. Simply a giant douche.

Anonymous said...

Am glad to see you guys called him out!

Have seen an increasing amount of this self satisfied asshole behavior among the Crazies.

It's mortifying and works against everything those who love Duke are trying to represent.

And it's not just in Cameron. Have had similar experiences with students during the NCAA tournament.

Send Dean Sue or somebody after these cretins.

Anonymous said...

Duke's cameron crazies should get some credibility when they sleep out in zero degree weather for a week...like Syracuse kids do not thirty degree weather. Duke's rules for the line for seats are a joke

Anonymous said...

People hate Duke because their fans are assholes who think they are more clever than they truly are. Their fans are like retarded children who have no idea they are retarded.

We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you for being douchebags. Duke fans redefine what it means to be a Dbag.

Anonymous said...

How DARE he not wear some lame blue t-shirt with "Cameron Crazie" on it! That group is a bunch of nerd freshmen from Jersey. They aren't a reasonable representation of the rest of the fans anyway, so who cares?

Anonymous said...

"The editors of TBZ and their friends" must mean "a bunch of douchebags from NY/NJ and Koreans". People hate Duke and Duke fans because you are all nerds, put taunting cheat sheets together before games, and have a superiority complex that screams "punch me in my stupid nerd face".

Anonymous said...

Oh noe! Your cool club has not a not cool crasher! What will you Dookies do???
Actually, I hope a battalion of these orange-clad freshmen show up. "Cameron Crazies" are a TV-driven sensation, and you have the gall to get upset when a CC goes against protocol to be on TV? The hell you say.
That guy is your future, Duke. Enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

As one of the "friends" of TBZ who was calling this dbag out, I want to clarify a few things...

1) im not from NY/NJ
2) im not korean

whether i am a dbag, well i guess thats still up for discussion. anyway, there is a group of us who sits on the "non-tv" side who dislike the "cameron crazies". we like basketball, and actually know the rules. we don't do all of the stupid cheers. we mock the cameron crazies when they chant stupid stuff (~90% of the time). we don't assume everything that the refs do is wrong.

while there might not be many of us, not all duke fans are cameron crazies who don't know anything about bball.

Tom said...

hey crazies, check this out...

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2008/2008_m_w_basketball_rules.pdf

Tom said...

sorry, try this:

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2008/2008_m_w_basketball_rules.pdf

Anonymous said...

All of you dook fans are complete D-Huffers...

Anonymous said...

Trust me - the reasons that people hate Dook is not because some kid wore an orange shirt to a game. There are many, many more valid reasons than that.

Zoubeksucks said...

you guys know why mr. wojo is the dooks big man coach...it's because he likes being the same height as all those 6'11" players ding-dings...

what a brilliant coaching decision...to make a former floor slapping point guard a big man coach....you have to wonderr if wojos fingerprint works on K's elevator too...'wink'wink'..

Anonymous said...

Their pillow fights are amazing

And by amazing, I mean they suck ass

:bacon

Anonymous said...

Duke students know nothing about football... we all know it. let's just admit it.

Anonymous said...

Elton Brand said Duke students don't know anything about basketball.

Elton Brand said...

Thank you very much, for reminding me of the reason why I left Duke. Peolple like you cannot and willnot (sic) ever understand my situation. I'm sure daddy worked very hard to send your rich self to college. While real people struggle. I would also like to extend an invitation for you not to waste your or my time ever agin. Never being considered a part of your posh group of yuppies really hurts me to the heart. Yea Right because I don't care about you or your alumni.

Elton Brand said...

You didn't go to Duke for the basketball games. You went because Brown and Dartmouth said you weren't good enough to go there.

KeyserHeel said...

I like Wojo.

JJ Reddick said...

I am gay... I like men.

Anonymous said...

Brown and Dartmouth? Maybe Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Slim chance of Dartmouth. Definitely not Brown.

ajwhite10 said...

Everyone hates dook because of fans like you & players like Wojo.

It's pretty simple. It doesn't have to do with the fact that dook wins....that only exaserbates the hate that has been there for decades.

The fact that dook is lead by an arrogant, whiny, hypocritical egomaniac & has a fan following of a bunch of pimply-faced, know-nothing pencil-neck nerds that masquerade as sports fans for 3 months of the year is the very heart of why everyone hates you.

When I think of North Carolina, I think of Michael Jordan, James Worthy, Dean Smith, Larry Brown, Roy Williams, Vince Carter, Phil Ford, Rasheed Wallace, Ray Felton...etc...etc...

When I think of dook, I think of Coach K, Christian Laettner, Danny Ferry, Wojo & Shane Battier.

& then I think of all those nerds, packed into Cameron Outhouse, jumping up & down with their cheer sheets, with zero basketball acumen.....led blindly by some fat goofball who is in charge of distributing & organizing cheers & chants, like the dickhead in HS, who won all the student spirit awards and was a virgin until age 30, when he finally came out of the closet.

To me, that's dook.

& it's pretty easy to hate....but we own the all-time series against them....we have more FFs....more AAs.....more all time wins.....& more National Championships...

So I point & laugh as I hate.

F dook.

Go Carolina.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't take some jackass in an orange shirt to get everyone to hate dook, when there are 9000 other jackasses in blue shirts getting the very same thing accomplished.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a shit? Carolina owns dook once again.

It must really suck to get denied from the Ivys.....get accepted to dook & then arrive in Durham to see what you are spending the next four years of your life doing.

Coach Wojo said...

Everyone loves us! Just like K loves my sweet ass after a win!!!

Sometimes, when Coach K lets me & Coach Collins have sleepovers, we all pillowfight, just like the current students in K-Ville the night before big games.

THAT is DUKE BASKETBALL!

Anyone want to buy a suffocated gerbil?

Chris Collins said...

Hey! You said you were going to get that gerbil stuffed as a momento from our night together!!!

Coach K said...

Both of you homos shut the fuck up. Now.....who wants to get tea-bagged while I punch the other one in the face?

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This Author's disappointed father said...

The last line of your editorial reads....

"And they're the reason Duke is known for having a me-first, basketball-second media-whore cheering section."

Your fucking HEAD COACH is a Me-first, basketball-second Media Whore, you idiot.

...or do you need to be reminded of all his ridiculous self-congratulatory AMEX & GM commercials? Are you that stupid? dook, as a basketball program is the very definition of media whoring in amatuer sports.

I loathe your stupidity & laugh at your ignorance, junior.

By the way, your editorial sucked. You should do something else with your spare time, loser.

Anonymous said...

I saw this kid too, and everything you wrote rushed through my head at the same time. I was ashamed of this jackass and so should any other sensible-minded Duke basketball fan. He should be permanently banned from attending games after that douchebaggy behavior.

Anonymous said...

I go to Duke and it's losers like this kid that make me ashamed to say that I once considered myself a Crazie. Honestly, 95% of those kids don't know shit about basketball or, more importantly, DUKE BASKETBALL.

I don't blame anyone for hating our fans. The vast majority of them are kids who probably considered Duke a #2-3 school for them behind some combo of Ivy schools. Then, they just so happened to get rejected from Harvard and suddenly had to adopt Duke and realized that if they learned a couple basic cheers, they could get their pasty, acne infested face on ESPN every once and a while. Meanwhile, the true fans are given a bad reputation because of these kids.

Go Devils.

James Stumofu said...

actually, he reminds me of MOST Duke b-ball fans. bunch of spoiled kids who think they're Ivy League and that spending 4 hours coming up with a rhyme is equivalent to actually being a "fan".

at least we get to enjoy watching your "fans" not show up for the entire football season when you usually win 1 game.

way to "support your teams"- oh yeah, "teams" only means lax and b-ball. and soccer. I forgot.

Anonymous said...

Nice job airing Cameron's dirty laundry in public. You bring more hatred on Duke than this kid ever would.

By the way, you're really cool for not cheering at the games. I hope you feel good about yourself and how much you know about college basketball. Your conceited and self-satisfied attitude is the exact reason people hate Duke.

Anonymous said...

there was a lot of douchebaggery in cameron for the michigan game... About four freshman in front of us left way before the game even ended (and they had to have slept out the night before) and the girl was iming all her friends the entire game...

there are a lot of knowledgeable, non-douchebag basketball fans on the tv side who don't dress up in stupid costumes and try to be loud as hell to make an impact on the game... I agree, though, the media whorishness has pissed me off for four years...

Anonymous said...

bad wording above.

The truth is that the only goal of anyone in Cameron should be to be as loud as possible for every minute of every entire game...

all the rest is bullshit

FREDTERP said...

"Unbiased" but link to the Duke Basketball Report???. Do you send them money too. FREDTERP

LittleWojo said...

This picture sums it up...

http://i16.tinypic.com/2ppesd2.jpg

Anonymous said...

:skilly

psycho t said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4

Anonymous said...

Airborne is a big fan of Wojo & Chrissy

Class o' '99 said...

Yeah orange guy's a d-bag, but the problem's way bigger than the idiot who shows up in a clown wig, or an orange Hanes X-L-fat. It includes idiotic cheer-sheet mentality. Back in the day we never needed a directive from above with "suggestions", like the "Tommy's Better" chant directed at a great coach like John Beilein.

Give me a break. Amaker left the cupboard empty at Michigan. Beilein's always overachieved with middling talent. You can't tell me these Crazies are too old to remember the Pittsnogle-Gansey days at WVU. The stupidity, nevermind the sheer inaccuracy, of that chant is unfortunately representative of the unimpressive repertoire you Crazies are displaying these days. Just because Harvard beat Michigan...do I even have to finish this sentence? Do you get that I'm implying most of you current Crazies are college hoops-ignorant?

On the other hand, me starting an impromptu "C-B-A" chant when LaRon Profit went to the foul line in the closing seconds of his last game in Cameron was f-ing brilliant. If only because we got the crowd to stop the stupid useless free throw schtick for once and caused Profit to clank em...

Anonymous said...

:Myron Piggie

Myron said...

YOU'RE the douchebag, douchebag.

Anonymous said...

Most of the people pretending to be Carolina and/or Duke players/ex-players in this comment section are douchebags.

There, I said it.

Anonymous said...

Fuck Dook!!!!

Fred44Terp said...

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Calzone, I am glad that there are some Duke fans out there that are willing to start a fair and accurate blog with no player or coach favoritism. Orange is not acceptable, I would allow my three sons to wear red or yellow, but not orange. We could use that same spirit here at Maryland, where we have a lot of sweet posters that would rather attack the author for not marching in step with them and their idol Gary? Where are the bloggers. Fred44Terp

Anonymous said...

Why is this surprising? Most Cameron Crazies are nerds who know little to nothing about basketball and are only there for the social aspect of it.

VCU Ram said...

HaHaHa

V-C-U!

V-C-U!

V-C-U!

Duke is Commonwealth's bitch...

Anonymous said...

hell, i go to duke and i won't disagree with the fact that a lot of my fellow cameron crazies are overly self-satisfied douchebags.
those who disagree are probably douchebags themselves (or nice people who are sleeping with the douchebags on the side)..despite the small stuff.
GO DUKE!!!!

Laughing in California said...

"Maybe Harvard, Yale or Princeton."
____________________________________


Maybe? dook is the safety school for kids who couldn't get into a good school. There certainly isn't any "maybe" about it.

Anonymous said...

People call the Crazies the most devoted fans in college basketball. What an idiotic statement that is. The Crazies are some of the most immature and classless human beings to walk the face of God's green earth. They are a disgrace to college basketball. Do you think they act this way at Duke football games? They probably don't even go to Duke football games. Why? Because a Duke football game being on national television has about as much chance of happening as Pauly Shore winning an Oscar, so their stupid students don't have a chance at appearing on TV. They make me glad I'm not a Duke fan.

Anonymous said...

yeah, Duke fans are sooo annoying, while carolina and maryland fans are perfect gentlemen (and ladies). give me a break. fans of teams that you don't like are annoying by definition. wow, duke fans are so arrogant and annoying, they actually cheer for their team to do well. i'm a patriots fan too, and now that the team is actually good rather than at the bottom of the league like it was for 40 years, suddenly the fans are *so* unbearable. it's hypocritical.

duke fans will shut up when their team isn't worth cheering for, and it's your team's job to make that happen. otherwise, move on. wasting your life posting about a team that you hate is really pathetic. get a life maybe?

Anonymous said...

Being a fan of Duke for awhile, it amuses me just how much people hate Duke basketball. Your comments don't offend, they sort of just reverberate in an empty room of shallow retorts and wallowing insecurities. We will always be the team you love to hate, but I realize once we aren't the subject of hatred it will be because we are no longer good enough to be in the national spotlight.

Keep the anger coming. Hate us or love us, we are who we are. Every student does stupid stuff to get on T.V. Since when are we Gods of perfection? The Cameron Crazies have gotten a reputation for letting down the alumni and the team recently, but who established the precedent that said we were the best?

Don't listen to everything ESPN tells you.

We'll see you in the tourney.

Anonymous said...

so when the hell does the temperature drop to ZERO in Durham? A cold day in hell, I suppose.

Anonymous said...

Good for the Duke player. Always thinking about himself first and not the team. His father must have been the one running Enron.

Anonymous said...

"You didn't go to Duke for the basketball games. You went because Brown and Dartmouth said you weren't good enough to go there."

ahhahahaha brown and dartmouth?

that's cute.

Anonymous said...

Why is he so much taller than everyone else? Is he standing on his seat or something?

duckfuke said...

What do you expect from a fan of Coack K? Summers with Coack Kry-baby are spent learning how to flop, cry when you lose, whine to the media, and lets not forget slap the floor to pump up the nerds. Sure I left out a few other key tools to the Dook game, like the infamous push off to free up for a jumper, dropping the f-bomb at least once during a foul shot huddle, the list could go on an on, but of this is just for the actual team. The fans get their daily mass email from some over achieving douchebag, that has a few free minutes in his day where he is not play some fantasy computer game. They then proceed to practice their chants like a bunch of drama geeks. And why is this might you ask? Its simple, to entertain Dookie V and the ESPN crew. We all know that you can not watch one single game on ESPN without one of their morons making a comment about how great the Dookies are. I am just glad that Dookie V is out with vocal chord issues so that we do not have to listen to him talk about the diaper dandy burger boys that have been assembled at Dook.

peter said...

he does not represent duke fans

Anonymous said...

Duke and their fans suck-

i hate duke said...

they play like dodo my grandma is better then them they are sorry they play like babies

Anonymous said...

How fortunate that all you Carolina fans have a blog you can wack off to. Thanks for providing further evidence that your parents are cousins.

Anonymous said...

I think the number one reason that I dislike Duke is because they cheat. Tonight, I along with my husband of 19 years, had the pleasure of watching a 1st class team, Belmont, play their hearts out against Duke. Of course, as usual, Duke won, 71/70 with the typical bad calls at the end. Coach K is manipulative and the most unsportsmanlike person I have ever seen. As a mother of Five, my husband and I often watch college ball and explain to our children how NOT to act when they participate in sports, often siting coach K's poor behavior and relentless whining.

Anonymous said...

people dont hate Duke because of the fans they hate them because they win. Ok some fans may ruin the fun for the rest of us but as a person who can't afford a ticket to go see a Duke game when Duke goes to other stadiums if you say Duke fans are so bad the stuff that other colleges say about them is down right stupid i mean they make the cameron crazies look like scholars. And you know what i could care less about the fans i just wanna watch a game of basketball